jenny
, tt
or any other client where fetches are driven by user interactions of invoking the app. What do we call this type of client? Hmmm 🤔 Then I can tell who uses yarnd
because they are "seen" more frequently 🤣
@javivf@adn.org.es pretty much 👌
@quark@ferengi.one I do have an idea for syncing this 🤞
$ bat https://twtxt.net/twt/edgwjcq | jq '.subject'
"(#yarnd)"
hahahahaha 🤣 Does your client allow you to do this or what? 🤔
Bahahahaha 🤣
@bmallred@staystrong.run Hehe, @bender@twtxt.net is gonna be upset with you for “making up a thread/subject” 🤣
jenny
, tt
or any other client where fetches are driven by user interactions of invoking the app. What do we call this type of client? Hmmm 🤔 Then I can tell who uses yarnd
because they are "seen" more frequently 🤣
@bmallred@staystrong.run No! Never 😆
Interesting factoid… By inspecting my “followers” list every now and again, I can tell who uses a client like jenny
, tt
or any other client where fetches are driven by user interactions of invoking the app. What do we call this type of client? Hmmm 🤔 Then I can tell who uses yarnd
because they are “seen” more frequently 🤣
First draft of yarnd 0.16 release notes. 📝 – Probably needs some tweaking and fixing, but it’s sounding alright so far 👌 #yarnd
It worked! 🥳
@bender@twtxt.net It isn’t @aelaraji@aelaraji.com’s fault at all here 😅 I think the only way I can improve this somewhat is by introducing a similar convergence that I believe @movq@www.uninformativ.de built for Jenny which would fetch the mentioned feed temporarily to see if it contains the subject being replied to (in case it’s not in the cache).
I’ll think about doing this too, but I have to do it carefully so as not to cost too much in terms of resources or performance…
@bender@twtxt.net Nah it’s there but it’s a reply to a thread that isn’t found here hmmm 🤔
@bender@twtxt.net Oh I see hmmm 🧐
Related Twt
@bender@twtxt.net Hah! 😂
@bender@twtxt.net Well… I don’t believe it’s possible to prevent or avoid all system accidents. However, managing system safety and putting in control structures goes a long way 👌
@bender@twtxt.net How is this dense or boring? 🧐
@bender@twtxt.net Not quite sue I understand your reaction 🤣
These ideas are dr the two books:
- Drift into Failure: From Hunting Broken Components to Understanding Complex Systems by Sidney Dekker (2011)
- Engineering a Safer World by Nancy Leveson (2011)
The former I haven’t read. The later I haven’t finished reading 😅
And the idea of asynchronous evolutions comes from system accidents where control failures emerge when system structure, constraints, and evolution are poorly managed.
The idea of drift into failure is small normal adaptations erode safety over time without people noticing.
@bender@twtxt.net allow me to try and explain over several Twts…
A visual flow chart diagram that illustrates how two different but very related concepts can lead to system accidents 👌
- asynchronous evolution
- drift into failure
Here’s an example of what you end up with (I don’t follow the feed, but it’s in my pod’s cache)
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev One thing I really liked about the hacker news rss feeds is the link to the comments. Reckon you can add that to the feed? 🤔
cacher
branch? 🤔 It is recommended you take a full backup of you pod beforehand, just in case. Keen to get this branch merged and to cut a new release finally after >2 years 🤣
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Yes see UPGRADE.md – I believe @xuu@txt.sour.is is now running this live after a couple of hiccups and a bug fix. So yeah if you can, that would be cool, basically looking for early beta testers (I was the alpha tester 🤣)
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Thanks! 🙏 Just re-followed @important_dev_news@n8n.andros.dev 👌
Can’t say I’ve been watching Black Mirror no.
@bender@twtxt.net Bahahahaha 🤣
This is the best I can do!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de But the side effects are Soo good! 🤣
You Will Never Be Able To Change A Man. Monique Marvez - YouTube Soo fucking good! 😊 Haha so many laughs!!! 😂
@bender@twtxt.net Oh yes! 👍 That was completely fucked up haha 🤣
Invention no 13 in A minor by J.S. Bach - YouTube Soo amazing! 🤩
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Haha you’ll have to forgive me, this thread is over a week old now and I’m a bit lost now 🤣 even though I can now see the entire thread, what are we saying was messed up and is garbled? 🤔
Whoo! Public holiday tomorrow in Oz 🥳
yarnd
: pods establish cryptographic identities, exchange signed /info
and /twt
payloads with signature verification, ensuring authenticity, integrity, and spoof-proof identity validation across the distributed network.
@bender@twtxt.net Haha 🤣
I’m thinking of building a hardened peering protocol for Yarn.social’s yarnd
: pods establish cryptographic identities, exchange signed /info
and /twt
payloads with signature verification, ensuring authenticity, integrity, and spoof-proof identity validation across the distributed network.
@xuu@txt.sour.is or @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Do either of you have time this weekend to test upgrading your pod to the new cacher
branch? 🤔 It is recommended you take a full backup of you pod beforehand, just in case. Keen to get this branch merged and to cut a new release finally after >2 years 🤣
Those really are great tits!
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz OMG! You used the video capabilities of yarnd
🤣 Nice! 😊
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ahh my vision impairment (blind) would prevent me from even appreciating anything in paper form 😢
PR to Add improved styles for the logo for twtxt.ndev
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz my rule of thumb is try not to drink any caffeine past midday. This is basically based on experience and the half-life of caffeine in your system.
@bender@twtxt.net amen 🙏
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com sounds like a panic attack to me 🤯
@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt I think you’re fine! 🧐
@bender@twtxt.net I wish we could fire presidents and Prime Minister’s when the need arises and the people recognize it needs to happen rather than having to wait for the next election
@bender@twtxt.net Sorry! 🤣
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz hey! Love the new avatar 👌
@bender@twtxt.net Holy moly 🤣 Bases on your description you’ve eaten and drunk way more than I have today where all I’ve had so far is three coffees today
My pod twtxt.net
feels very clear of late hmmm 🧐 This is good right? 😅
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Love those green roll’n hills 👌 Btw, what’s that rickety ‘ol shed in 18? 🤔
@bender@twtxt.net So Vance killed the pope? 🤔
@thecanine@twtxt.net Pretty cool! 😎
My Hypothesis for why registries didn’t work and why they still won’t really work today is because the bend the rules of “true” decentralization a bit. Users have to pick one or more registries to “register” to. Why would they want to do this? What is their incentive to do so? Then on the other hand, users need a client that has registry support, but now which registry or sets of registries do you choose?
@bmallred@staystrong.run Nice! 👌
@bender@twtxt.net wut?! 😮
This is fixed now 🥳 Thanks @xuu@txt.sour.is!
@bender@twtxt.net I believe that’s the only way. We’ll deal with it as it comes up I think.
@bender@twtxt.net I can fix and make that work in the parser too. But I’m no longer sure how to cater for the general case. It’s too much to support all punctuation whilst at the same time as other contradicting rules. For example you cannot both support .
in nicknames and then expect to be able to to end a mention with a .
🤦♂️
.
(period) in their # nick
🤣 tbh I think nick(s) should have rules of what they can and cannot be comprised of. i.e: no punctuation 🤦♂️
@bender@twtxt.net Yes I know 🤣 It’s okay, we just have to build better parsers 😅
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci totally my fault sorry 😞
@bender@twtxt.net LOL 😂
There are 5 of such “Twters” on this pod that have periods in their nick 😢
sqlite> select count(distinct(nick)) from twters where nick like '%.%';
count(distinct(nick)) = 5
sqlite> select distinct(nick) from twters where nick like '%.%';
nick = @marado@ciberlandia.pt
nick = eapl.me
nick = eapl.mx
nick = grumpygordie.great-site.net
nick = @chyrp.doesnm.cc
I’ll see if I can fix this and write a test case for what’s going on here. I think this is made difficult now because folks like @eapl.me@eapl.me decide that it’s okay to have a .
(period) in their # nick
🤣 tbh I think nick(s) should have rules of what they can and cannot be comprised of. i.e: no punctuation 🤦♂️
Whereas @movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org and @bender@twtxt.net are all cool 😎
That’s kind of weird actually. Hmmm @ @ and @bender@twtxt.net are all cool 😎
@bender@twtxt.net This story just reminds me of the couple of times we’ve paid for things in cash 💰 💲 and the stupid banks with the ridiculous “scam alert policy” ask you all kind of dumb ass questions about what you need the cash for 🤦♂️ One of these days I need an excuse to buy something that costs a few $k just so I can answer when asked, “what do you need the cash for?” to which my response will be “drugs and hookers of course!” 🤣
@bender@twtxt.net Sounds good to me! Done ✅ Also you did some, so thanks! 🙏
@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Remind me alter 🙏
@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Because I’m a lazy project manage and I haven’t grooomed the backlog in a while 🤣 Since you’re there, do you mind cleaning it up for me? 🙏
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz creating habits or rituals as hard, dropping ones that you no longer need or considered harmful is even harder! Good luck! 🙏
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz That’s what she said 🤣
Responded to a bunch of Twtxt open issues across multiple repositories today 👌
@bender@twtxt.net You said:
as long as those working on clients can reach an agreement on how to move forward. That has proven, though, to be a pickle in the past.
I think this is because we probably need to start thinking about three different aspects to the ecosystem and document them out:
- Specifications (as they are now)
- Server recommendations (e.g: Timeline, yarnd, etc)
- Client recommendations (e.g: jenny, tt, tt2, twet, etc)
@bender@twtxt.net wut?! Who carries three grand worth of cash in their handbag?! 👜 Haha 😆
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Bahahaha so do it all the time 🤣
dm-only.txt
feeds. 😂
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Some good points here that I share and empathize with 🙌
@bender@twtxt.net I see hmmm 🧐
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Zulu said:
what is twtxt for you?
For me Twtxt is just the underlying format that Yarn.social builds upon 😅
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Ahh cool! I’ll try following it again 🤣 Mind @-mentioning/linking@twtxt.net the feed again? 🙏
Also what’s a, who’s the Pope? 😅
@quark@ferengi.one I know! I saw three Hacker News posts on it in a row 🤣
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Haha 🤣 We’ve explored this idea in the past and we decided that it’s actually a good idea to have an “append-only” feed for various reasons. We’ve also explored the idea of using Range
requests, but opted instead to just archive/rotate our feeds periodically 😅 There really isn’t much point in having a feed in reverse chronological order, except (maybe?) so a human read view the new twts at the top of the file?! 🤣
@bender@twtxt.net This is just a website that cycles through random Youtube channels? 🤔
I guess mentions with .
(s) / dot(s) like @eapl.me@eapl.me are valid? 🤔 Or nicks even? 🤔
Fark Youtube is so utterly boring 🥱
@bender@twtxt.net Ahh yes you caught me 🤣
@bender@twtxt.net Not copy/paste 🤣 Hand on heart! ❤️ However it was a pretty nice article 😅
Getting Forked by Microsoft • Philip Laine 👈 Yet another pretty sad story of a megacorp (Microsoft) being total assholes 😢
Regex Isn’t Hard - Tim Kellogg 👈 this is a pretty good conscience article on regexes, and I agree, regex isn’t that hard™ – However I think I can make the TL;DR even shorter 😅
Regex core subset (portable across languages):
Character sets
• a matches “a”
• [a-z] any lowercase
• [a-zA-Z0-9] alphanumeric
• [^ab] any char but a or b
Repetition (applies to the preceding atom)
• ? zero or one
• * zero or more
• + one or more
Groups
• (ab)+ matches “ab”, “abab”, …
• Capture for extract/substitute via $1 or \1
Operators
• foo|bar = foo or bar
• ^ start anchor
• $ end anchor
Ignore non‑portable shortcuts: \w, ., {n}, *?, lookarounds.
@bender@twtxt.net No worries 😉
There we go. Restored all the old settings 👌
@bender@twtxt.net Lemme look at the old backup…
I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though.
Recall what we had this set to for this pod? 🧐
@bender@twtxt.net Really? Wow! 😂