@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah I couldn’t agree more. The utility of using it in any way to form “truths” or to do anything that require a high degree of “accuracy” is utterly pointless.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Very nice! 😊 You must love those yellow dandelions? 🤔

But it is still a giant inefficient use of resources and energy 🤣

AI isn’t a shortcut for thinking. In her guide for skeptics, Hilary Gridley reframes AI as a collaborator—not a replacement. Use it like spellcheck for your thoughts. Don’t fear it—iterate with it. Insight improves, speed follows. Full post: https://hils.substack.com/p/the-ai-skeptics-guide-to-ai-collaboration

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Haha 🤣 Figures 🤦‍♂️ Also no need to be concerned with that here, I’ve personally blocked the ASN(s) of Microsoft, OpenAI, Claude and Google 😂

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah 👍 Haha 🤣 Does your own cache go back this far? 🤔

Ahh so I was partially right 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Apparently that is @buckket@twtxt.net’s name? 🤔

Hmmm there’s a bug somewhere in the way I’m ingesting archived feeds 🤔

sqlite> select * from twts where content like 'The web is such garbage these days%';
      hash = 37sjhla
  feed_url = https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/1
   content = The web is such garbage these days 😔 Or is it the garbage search engines? 🤔
   created = 2024-11-14T01:53:46Z
created_dt = 2024-11-14 01:53:46
   subject = #37sjhla
  mentions = []
      tags = []
     links = []
sqlite>

@movq@www.uninformativ.de It’s nice to see shit like this still works 🤣 Even years later 😂

@bender@twtxt.net Yup 👍

I do want to improve the feeds.twtxt.net service one day (soon™) with features like this. But first I’ll have to prevent spammers from abusing it by introducing IndieAuth as an authentication layer.

Btw @andros@twtxt.andros.dev ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News… Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I’ve had to unfollow it because I’ve found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an “Edit” and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢

@bender@twtxt.net Shall we remove this primary/secondary color sttting? 🧐

@bender@twtxt.net Btw, do we want to nuke this compact feature? 🧐

@bender@twtxt.net How do you mean? 🧐 Caddy doesn’t do L4 by default.

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I think it’s totally fine. I mean self-hosting costs money too. Power, Hardware, Time/effort, etc.

@bender@twtxt.net I recommend this also 👌 My eris was based off of a much much older version of ergo.

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I already have my IRC server irc.mills.io running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don’t terminate TLS at the edge in this case.

it is infininately simpler to run/operate 🤣

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @movq@www.uninformativ.de You could also have a play with eris which I use to power my little tiny server (that almost no-one uses 🤣)

@bender@twtxt.net Ahh okay, I must have misread the website 🤔

Seem like it’s a server-client thingy? 🤔 I much prefer tools in this case and defer the responsibility of storage to something else. I really like restic for that reason and the fact that it’s pretty rock solid. I have zero complaints 😅

@bender@twtxt.net Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣

Timeline of Evolution of Twtxt/Yarn.social:

• 2016 – Twtxt created by John Downey: plain text + HTTP = minimalist microblogging
  
• 2017–2019 – Community builds CLI tools, but adoption remains niche
  
• 2020 – Yarn.social launched by @prologic@twtxt.net with federation, threading, UI
  
• 2021–2023 – Pods sync, user mentions, blocking, search, and media support added
  
• 2024+ – Yarn.social becomes the reference Twtxt platform, with active federated pods

I asked ChatGPT what it knows about Twtxt 😂 And surprisingly it’s rather accurate:

Twtxt is a minimalist, decentralized microblogging format introduced by John Downey in 2016. It uses plain text files served over HTTP—no accounts, databases, or APIs.
In 2020, James Mills (@prologic@twtxt.net) launched Yarn.social, an extended, federated implementation with user discovery, threads, mentions, and a full web UI.
Both share the same .twtxt.txt format but differ in complexity and social features.

@bender@twtxt.net LOL 🤣

Oh hey @rrraksamam@twtxt.net 👋 Welcome back! 🙌 Sorry about the data loss 🤯

@movq@www.uninformativ.de From what I can tell, they use strict semantic versioning and backwards compatibility. There are two versions of the storage, v1 and v2, but it doesn’t look like v2 is enabled yet.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL 😂

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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Haha 🤣 I’d say it’s just yet-another-bad-bot 🤖 I’ve blocked a lot of such bots and often their entire networks (ASN) 🤦‍♂️

I use restic and Backblaze B2 for offline backup storage at a cost of $6/TB/month. I don’t backup my entire ~20TB NAS and its datasets however, so I’m only paying about ~$2/month right now. I only backup the most important things I cannot afford to lose or annot re-created.

Yes

@javivf@adn.org.es merged in to the repo of specs:

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I’ll cut a release soon™, but still a few more things to iron out 🤣 One of the new challenges is figuring out what to do with the “Discover” view now that is has an unconfined limit, on my pod (at least) it’s now basically just “noise” 🤦‍♂️

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Been missing your jovial posts too and your friends 🤣

@quark@ferengi.one No editing old Twts that are the root of a thread with replies in the ecosystem. Just results in a fork. Unless the client has an implementation that does not store Twts keyed by Hash.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh dear 😂

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz The re-fetch should work just fine 🤞

@david@collantes.us Thanks I’ll fix.

@bender@twtxt.net Sure 👻👻👻

@bender@twtxt.net That’s what I’m trying to figure out 🤔

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Curious where this root twt is?! 🤣 Apparently my pod doesn’t have it and I can’t find it anywhere. It’s suppose to be #l4doaxa

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev For what purpose? 🤔

@xuu@txt.sour.is Yeah @-mentioning@twtxt.net someone you don’t have a local alias for is broken somehow :( I haven’t looked into it yet…

@xuu@txt.sour.is Seems to be fine here?

$ bat https://twtxt.net/twt/yfv5kfq | jq '.text'
"!<dm-echo https://dm-echo.andros.dev/twtxt.txt> U2FsdGVkX1+QmwBNmk9Yu9jvazVRFPS2TGJRGle/BDDzFult6zCtxNhJrV0g+sx0EIKbjL2a9QpCT5C0Z2qWvw=="

@fastidious@tilde.town Haha 🤣

@<@marado@ciberlandia.pt https://tilde.pt/~marado/twtxt.txt> Hey! do you see this? 🧐

@bender@twtxt.net I don’t no. I mostly just use whole themes. And my facourite it AMOLED

@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt It was always intended to have both Yarn.social and Salty.im integrate together. Yes. This includes having a set of specifications that anyone can write clients to.

@javivf@adn.org.es Generally speaking if it has been reviewed, discussed and merged, then we accept it as a standard to the set of specs we support. However we might want to document this process and set some guidelines about this to be clear 🤣 We’ve been fairly lax/lose here and I think that’s okay given teh size of our community 👌

@bender@twtxt.net Ahhh ha!!! 🤣 I’m too dumb to have thought of that 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net Do we still want this feature? 🧐

@bender@twtxt.net Would they even accept a server from me? 🧐😂

@eapl.me@eapl.me This is one of my concerns too. The moment you post publicly ciphertext, you open yourself up for future attacks on the ciphertext, which you really want to avoid if you can. If you have a read of the Salty.im Spec you’ll note we went to great lengths to protect the user’s privacy as well as their identity and make it incredibly hard to guess at inboxes. It’s still a WIP, but I’d love to see it progressed even further – I truly feel strongly about a purely decentralised messaging ecosystem 👌

@bender@twtxt.net ping! 🏓

@hacker-news@feeds.twtxt.net I like this 👌

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Nice! 😊

@bender@twtxt.net Close enough 🤣

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev No worries! 😉

@bender@twtxt.net Sadly my earlier Twt back in ~2020 is now gone from at least this pod’s cache 🤣 – It might still exist in other pods though? 🤔 It does! https://txt.sour.is/twt/o6dsrga

I think I would encourage anyone in this community is to care less about supporting “legacy clients” and focus more on value-add whilst balancing the burden of client authors – which have very precious little “spare time” 🤣

I do think integrating things like Salty.im might actually be a good idea. I can also see a future where we integrate other things like todo.txt and calendar.txt. I’d even love to see decentralised forms of “plain text” voting too.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I don’t see any “fighting” here. This is just good experimentation. Unfortunately there hasn’t really been enough time or effort by other “client authors” yet, me especially as I’ve been super busy with ya’ know my “day job” that pays the bills and refactoring yarnd to use a new and shiny and much better SqliteCache 🤣 – I certainly don’t think your efforts are wasted at all. I would however like @doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt encourage you to look at the work we’ve done as a community (which was also driven out of the Yarn.social / Twtxt community years back).

https://salty.im/

@eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club No worries! 👌

Morning y’all 👋

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Ahh I see 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev your feed is spitting out dupes? 🧐

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I honestly think IRC is better anyway 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Damn that’s a sexy pidgeon 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net Haha 😆

@bender@twtxt.net I think mentions are fixed 🤣

Oh hello @yarn_police@twtxt.net 🚨

@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Why would you want that lol 😂

This is nuts. Lemme eat dinner first (pizza on the way!) and I’ll fix this utter nonsense 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net IRC man 🤣

Fascinating read on the emerging Model Context Protocol — a new standard for integrating LLMs with agents and tools.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev doesn’t this defeat the point of public cryptography?

@bender@twtxt.net Haha 🤣

Dam the search here is sooo good now 😅

@bender@twtxt.net Now you have me thinking, which is better? 🤔

@bender@twtxt.net I will figure this out soon™ and fix, it’s annoying the fuck out of me 🤣

I personally really like the news minimalist (fuck it mentions are kind of broken atm here in the UI :/) feed myself, really good quality, very high signal 👌

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev It’s good advice 😅 I try to do this myself (please call me out if you ever catch me NOT doing this 🤣)

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Q: Why would you publish the private key? Hmmm 🧐

Cool. That’s fixed! 🥳 I believe we’re now syncing to 6 peers again now. Hopefully with similar behavior as before 🤞

Oops, I think this pod (twtxt.net) just sync ~1k missing root twts with god only knows which peers 🤦‍♂️ I forgot a couple of important key things:

• Only coverage with a subset of peers
  
• Only converge with trusted peers
  

Fuck me 🤣 Ooops. Sorry!

Nice! 😊

Peering is back 🤞

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Kind of a cool idea actually! 👌 I’ll follow and see what it’s like, thanks! 🙏

Broadcast Positioning System, as an alternative to GPS. Very cool 😎

@bender@twtxt.net Sweet! 🙌

How’s that? Please refresh and see if that’s fixed? 🙏

@bender@twtxt.net There is only one commit that I can think of that might be the cause here. Shall I revert and redeploy? 🤔

@bender@twtxt.net Seems fine here on my
iPhone? 🧐

Yeah same order of magnitude 👌 No relation mice other than the recent study that precisely measured the number of cells and connections in 1 cubic mm of brain tissue.

I was trying to optimize the SQL query used for the Compact FrontPage (anonymous view for Discovery when the Admin/Operator chooses “one twt per feed”).